Let's talk credit. Shantel, thank you for your post. Sometimes an outsider can help. To me, you helped here. PBM, thank you again for closing the involved threads. I do have one person on ignore as the result of the thread and it is not one of you. As an important side issue, I wish everyone would treat PSUgirl with more courtesy. That was the heart of the matter here to me. BTW, I don't even know her.