Validation Question

Discussion in 'Credit Talk' started by Erica, Apr 3, 2002.

  1. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    Recently I solicited some help off the board about a letter that I could send to a creditor (collection agency, rather) who sent me an application as their validation. This doesn't prove that I charged the debt, or their accounting on the total amount due. Does anyone have any idea how to tell them that their "validation" isn't anywhere near sufficient to satisfy me? I mean, I'm having trouble drafting the letter.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Christi

    Christi Well-Known Member

    I don't have any help for ya...but wanted to say HOWDY and welcome back :)
     
  3. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    Howdy to you too!!!!

    BTW, Thanks for the bump, and congrats!
     
  4. QUEEN_BEE

    QUEEN_BEE Well-Known Member

    Not to scare you, but if they are able to get a copy of the original application with your signature, I would not doubt that they can also get a copy of a cancelled check that you paid to the original creditor if need be.

    Just be careful since they were willing to go that far...
     
  5. lbrown59

    lbrown59 Well-Known Member

    This still don't prove the debt is owed.
     
  6. tmitchell

    tmitchell Well-Known Member

    Basically, you just need to ask them directly - Please provide me with a full accounting of the account that supports the amount you claim I owe you.

    That said, I'm assuming if they could provide the original application, they can probably provide you with the account details.
     
  7. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    The debt is with a collection agency that bought the debt. It took them about 5 months to get the aplication, and I'm betting that it will take another 5 months to get the accounting together. Then the SOL to sue will be up in NY and it is already up in NC, where I am living. So either way, I have an affirmative defense. That is what I'm hoping for, here.

    Thanks for the replies
     
  8. Aux

    Aux Well-Known Member

    My ex got the same problem. Sent out validation letter, Received all statments (2 years) and copy of application form for his signature.

    AUX
     
  9. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    I sent a validation letter in October, and got the application in March. The SOL to sue will be up in May for NY. I don't care if they send me the statements or not, if they send it after may 7, then I don't have to pay under the law.

    That is what I'm hoping for.
     
  10. Erica

    Erica Well-Known Member

    What if I just ignore the letter they sent me and send out an estoppel letter? Will that work?

    Opinions?
     
  11. whatever

    whatever Well-Known Member

    A signed applications proves what? That you applied for a credit card only. Does it mean you were approved? I have applied for many things, some approved some not, showing me an application means nothing, other than I filled the thing out. If you were approved and defaulted then they need to show WHEN you defaulted, BALANCES, PAYMENTS, etc.
    I am dealing with the same thing right now. Their validation was the application for the credit card. Big deal, I applied. The burden of proof is on them to show how much I owe, when, etc. If the best thing they can come up with is an application, I doubt they have anything else, or else they would have sent it. BTW, after my 3rd request, which I got more demanding, they called and offered a settlement. That told me, they could not prove this debt to me.
     

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